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would Jesus and Mohammed be ashamed of us?

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Rinabear07
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nova

You again misunderstood or did not read the statement right. I said: God uses the foolishness of this world to confound the wise. I did not say the laws of God are foolishness. If you follow this thread correctly, you'll find out that I am a Christian and strongly believe in the Bible, every part of it. That's why I constantly quote it.

King David was not a fool; in the Bible, he's described as "a man after God's own heart". David trusted in God totally and completely; even when he(David) sinned, he still trusted that God would keep the promises He made to him.

More than that; check out the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew chapter 1. Do you think the all knowing, all powerful, almighty God of all ages, didn't know what He was doing when he included David in the genealogy of His Son, Jesus?

FYI ( For Your Information) Liberia is the way she is because of greed!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ok I tell you a Little of my beleafs .

Canada i beleave is part of Ephrium ,You can see in Gen 48 ephrium is told he will become a multitude of nations . I beleave the british commanwealth is Ephrium .(i relise now many peoples are in these countries but they was mostly brought about by english settlers) America i beleave is Mannasah .
If you read Gen 48 and 49 you will see that joseph got the biggest blessing of any tribe of the earth . Isreal before he died even named his Name on Ephrium and Mannasah . In the 49th chaptar you will see a great blessing put on Ephrium and Mannasah (or tribe of Joseph) . Includeing his Bow would run over the Wall (his langage and culture would spread in other Nations) . America , Canada , Austrailia ,New Zealand , even south africa became very wealthy because of what is wrote in josephs blessing in gen 49 .

I beleave the English is Joseph .

French is Ruebin

Zebulon is Dutch

thats how these nations got rich it was a blessing from God .

But before the End we get a time called great tribulation ,its also called jacobs(isreals trouble ) . I beleave these rich nations fall before the end as God stops helping them and actually may bring bad things upon them .

Thats why im looking at Africa . I actually beleave someday America and Canada may be in worse shape then africa . I see it coming .

As a fisherman i can tell you These countries oceans are in very Bad shape . Id say less then 10% of the resources are left .Even on land now i see weird weather , I see the Honey bees dieing here for no reason . This could stop polenation of fruits and Veg .

What i See in the Bible is (exekiel 5) is a time comes in the future when 1/3 of the people of america , canada will die in famine and plauges ,diseases ect . Then after war hits . 1/3d will die in War , then the remaining 1/3 a sword is drawn out after . When Christ returns to the Earth only 10% of the english decendent peoples will be left .

Thats what i see in the Bible .

I fear its close . I even suspect (just guessing) Hilery Clinton may be the last president of the US . I say that because of what i see in Isaiah 3 .

So im actually looking at africa might want to move there someday . As i beleave if you unlock the Bible and get its real messages it looks bad for the western nations future .

I don't think when the Tribulation hits countries like Liberia will be much worse then they are now .

Also i know a great number of people will enter the real church in african nations , asian nations ect . In all the tribes of Isreal only 144,000 repent dureing the trib . But in other nations a innumerable number repents . So in the future great works will be Done in places like Africa .

Only 12000 repents out of mannasah , and only 12000 out of Ephrium during the tribulation .so not much work to be done in this part of the world .

I'm kind of looking to go to africa .. and most want to come this way . as i think its soon going to change around . The west will fall .

we have got to the point where they no longer hid their sins here , we have lost our men of honour , our wise and prudent judges ect Isaiah 3 .

I agree we are almost in the last day . But there will be no rapture .

The christians will be here during the tribulation . But the tribulation is mostly Jacobs troubles . And Jacob named his name on Ephrium and manasah . british comman wealth and america .

And sisi I'm not attacking Liberia . Im serious i beleave If liberia ever did start to follow Gods laws (probly never would) inclueding keeping the seventh day sabbath , the real holy days . base their laws on Gods laws . Liberia would soon become great . Id like to see a Country try it .You would soon see a Country Move up in the World .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

Where do you get this from?
Like I said...Jesus has already foretold what will happen
in the last days which we are already living in.
You cannot change what God has said will happen.
So keep dreaming that one nation or another will
open the Bible and suddenly we have a wealthy nation.

Those are your thoughts...Not God's
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

The only reason the tribulation is coming is these nations Have turned away from their God.

read ezekiel 5 , ezekiel 22 , hosea 4 (the harlots are false churches) ,Isaiah 3 ...most them prophets are speaking to Modern day america or british commanwealth
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

That will help you understand Sissy . I beleave its the truth .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

There is a magazine on this one Sissy You can order it free . Its good .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

Nova
God's word the Bible is enough for me.
It contains everything I need to know.
I do not have to look to a man for God's
Wisdom.
All scripture is inspired of God for reproving
and for setting things straight, that the man
of God will be fully competent.

I also have a direct line to God through
Jesus Christ. When I lack understanding I
ask them directly to break things down.
Not Humans.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

1000 doctrines all claim they know whats in the bible , but you know alot of different ideas .




you will not find them men i posted twisting or taking out of context .

every body knows whats in the bible or so they think . till they really see it .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

So you are Sure sissi that them Links i posted was not real men of God?

Did you prove them wrong with your Bible?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Player, yes i think that both Jesus and Mohammed would be ashamed of some christians and muslims if they were to come back. Most especially for using the bible and koran to cause confusion, death, and pure suffering to innocent people. Some of them even lie, abuse and cheat! I am not a christian nor a muslim but from what i have heard that is not what they taught! Many of these so called religious people leave a whole lot to desire.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know about Mohammed............................but I know that Jesus does feel compassion on lost souls; yes even those that "misuse" the Bible.

Because of that compassion...............God/Jesus has provided a way for repentance; so that these individuals would not experience eternal damnation.

I'm not sure about "shame"...................Isaiah 54:4 actually address this topic. So.............................
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

.......I'm with pike2 on this issue.......If either Jesus or Mohammed were to show up, we'd all be toast...........that is, unless Player were to intervine and save our butts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Player- 1. Unlike the gospel of Jesus, Mohamed sometimes called for forceful and violent propagation of Islam and punishment when a particular law is broken.
2. I believe each and every Christian will have his/her conscience to deal with when Jesus or judgment day comes. Me, I'm working my way to heaven.

Nova- Please, please do a spell check before posting.

Pike2- Jesus will not be surprised at the hypocrisy of most Christians. He foretold it thousands of years ago. (Matthew 7:21-23; Matthew 24:11-12)

Peace out!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Prophet Mohamed was humble, forgiving and peaceful.
Despite facing a lot of hardship during his lifetime from non muslims, he did not call for nor encouraged the killing of innocent human beings, including those whom have harassed, humiliated, and tried to assassinate him.

On one occasion a man had written a critical poetry about the Prophet, which angered many of his companions, and one of them (Omar)
gets up and threatens to kill the poet, the Prophet immediately calms Omar down and orders him to sit down and let it go.

Bottom line is there is no place for terrorism in Islam, and those whom are bombing and killing innocent people here and there have their own political agendas that does not relate to Islam or the Prophet in any way.

The koranic verse below is another example.

56 And do not make mischief in the earth after its reformation, and call on Him fearing and hoping; surely the mercy of Allah is close to those who do good (to others). chapter 7, verse 56.
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